CPZ Consultation – this is the time to have our say

All residents in the FARA area (except those in Davies Lane who already have a CPZ) should have received a public consultation document “Post Games Controlled Parking Zone”. The document is A4 with a mostly bright green cover. It has a detachable questionnaire at the back which must be returned to the Council in the envelope “before Monday 22 October”.

It’s essential that all residents get to have a say about this CPZ which affects us all, whether we are vehicle owners or simply have occasional visitors or tradesmen visiting.

To ensure your questionnaire arrives in time, you should post on or by Tuesday 16 October (because second-class post is supposed to arrive on the third WORKING day after posting, and you want it to arrive on/by Friday 19 October).

Didn’t get a questionnaire? Send an email as soon as possible to cpz.schemes@walthamforest.gov.uk, stating your name and address.

FARA isn’t taking a formal position for or against the CPZ but we are very keen to ensure all residents have a say and that you are aware of all the issues. We welcome your views below including comments from people from Davies Lane who know what it’s like living in a CPZ. (Comments are moderated so won’t appear straight away, but should go up the same day.)

External links that may be of interest:
Waltham Forest Council pages on parking permits
Waltham Forest Guardian: ‘Thousands’ against CPZ proposals

12 Responses to “CPZ Consultation – this is the time to have our say”

  1. faraleytonstone Says:

    Thanks to everyone who posted their views – it’s been very helpful. If you are reading this and haven’t yet voted please find your form and send it back to the Council now!

  2. Nick Says:

    I’ve voted for the parking restrictions imposed during the Olympics to continue in Ferndale and Malvern Road (I live in Malvern close to the High Road). Here’s why:

    The parking restrictions ahead of the Olympics actually came into effect before the games (on July 16), and before the summer holidays kicked in. The result was immediate at our end of Malvern (at first I thought the peace was down to the missiles): less traffic, less vehicles coming and going to take up space, less use of our road as a general car park. Bliss.

    So who was missing from our streets?

    * The vans from businesses on the High Road – the ones who are now campaigning against the restrictions and getting every passing customer to sign their petitions.

    * The cars quite clearly parked there by local garages – easy to spot as they are in need of repair, two months on the tax disc, empty of personal effects – stuck in the same space for weeks on end.

    * The commuters who couldn’t be bothered to walk or hop on the bus to the Overground Station or the Tube

    It was these same people taking up spaces when my children were younger and my pregnant wife was lugging all the shopping (and first kid) right from one end of Malvern to the other; also when we had ill relatives come and visit. Thanks chaps.

    I know the scheme will not guarantee a space outside my home – I’m not that naive. But at least I will know that those people taking up a space will have some reason for parking there, through their connection with the road and the neighborhood, rather than someone who sees our road as a place to stick their vehicles. It’s called community, and CPZ, if applied wisely, can help build it in residential areas by making it a more pleasant place to live.

    The council recently painted a yellow line at the sharp bend on Malvern. This has made a major difference. Drivers used to park across this inside corner – and it was a nightmare for the rubbish collection, for lorries, for anything bigger than a 4×4 attempting to get past. On a couple of occasions this extended to ambulances. I have witnessed very few problems on this corner since then.

    The issue of cost has been flagged. I agree, it would be wrong for the council to use CPZ as a revenue-raising venture. But I don’t mind paying the costs proposed because there is no right to have a free parking space in Europe’s biggest city in 2012 when everything possible is being done to move people onto public transport. Remember, this borough saw its population grow by around 16 percent between 2001 and 2011 and will continue to grow. The free-for-all is unrealistic – and I say that knowing it will cause me problems and extra cost when I go to visit friends outside my zone.

    Where will the visitors to the Lincoln’s development park? And the next block of flats? And the one that follows that? Not in Davies Lane – but Malvern and Ferndale, the next CPZ-free roads down.

    Ahead of the Olympics, the High Road was made more car-friendly: the number of parking spaces was increased and speed humps levelled. Isn’t that enough? Is this a neighborhood for cars — or residents?

  3. Kathleen Downes Says:

    If you look at Davies Lane since the CPZ scheme was introduced, and the other roads going towards the High Road during the times the CPZ is in operation, there are always parking spaces available in these roads, so I am definitely in favour of keeping the CPZ Scheme in Ferndale Road.

    One must also consider the fact that the new flats being built on Lincolns Site may also increase the number
    of cars needing to park, and at present the only places they would be able to park is Ferndale, Malvern and Montague Roads, since all the roads going towards the Town Centre already have permit parking. It seems unfair such residents can park in our street for free, and we cannot park in their streets because they have a CPZ scheme. We live at the top end of Ferndale Road, and parking is much more problematic at this end of the road.

    I feel that Ferndale, Malvern and Montague Roads should be considered as one area, rather than three different roads, as it would be disastrous if Malvern and Montague Roads vote in favour, and Ferndale Road vote against.

    I am aware that some households in Farndale had to reschedule works three or four times, due to the fact that builders were not able to park on the day work was scheduled to commence. Having permits available would allow builders to park and carry out work when required, rather than having to reschedule. When you think how much a permit costs, it is a very small price to pay to ensure that residents and workmen can park when they need to.

  4. Mary Says:

    MG Malvern Rd (middle)
    It looks like the CPZ wont happen from responses. I do wonder reading them tho if i live in the same area!! Perhaps it doesn’t affect 9-5 working people? As a mother of 2, using the car in working hours i often have to park quite far & lug shopping back. Etc.

    Surely a solution would be, as in Bushwood to have restricted hours between 10 – 2 pm, Monday Friday? Look how lovely and empty the roads are there. The roads immediately down from a CPZ – ie Ferndale & Malvern in particular, will suffer the most. Being closest to high street & the overland. Yet we are polled in a greater area where parking becomes less & less problematic.

    Scratch cards aren’t too expensive (tho seemingly much more than the other two councils in which i’ve lived). And once you’ve got them very easy to apply for more etc.

    I do hope the CPZ goes ahead, (monday – friday, 10 – 4, tho actually 10 – 2 my preference).

  5. Barry Shipman Says:

    BS Montague Rd
    Lets be plain and honest about this, the parking in this area is not really that bad. I can usually park outside my house without bother and on the odd occaision I cant, then I am pretty sure to find some place close.
    This is nothing other than a stelth tax and I am totaly against having to pay a fee for parking my car outside my house. I would urge all to vote against this idea as it is not needed and is only propsed to eneable the local council to extract extra funds from its residents. I think we all pat enough tax already….dont you!

  6. kdot (Montague road) Says:

    Christopher and GC still didn’t argue for why we should make it hard to park at times when the streets are empty. Parking in our area is difficult, yes, but this is the wrong solution. I could support a CPZ from 17:00-19:00 for example. That would still stop commuters leaving their car in the street while they take the tube to the city, prevents those living on the high road or in neighbouring streets from parking their car for free around the clock, but wouldn’t do as much harm to the local economy and cause a lot less inconvenience to residents. Evening restrictions would actually help us find a parking space when it is most needed. The Olympics CPZ is not a fair comparison, because it was the middle of summer and many locals were away on holidays, so it would have been calmer anyway. Finally, it’s only going to cost £30 if you never have any visitors. If you have people coming over just once a week it will add up very quickly.

  7. Christopher Says:

    Chris (Malvern Road)
    I have to disagree with Peter. From our experience, parking had become a major problem on Malvern Road prior to the Olympics, with a number of workers treating our street like a park-and-ride arrangement with the High Road station. Many of these cars were still on the street after 5.00pm and so when we returned home there were no parking spaces at our end of the street. As more properties on Malvern Road are becoming rented/ shared accommodation, there will be more cars per household. (We are a one car household). Also, in the past, there have also been issues with car rental firms parking their vehicles on local roads and we also have to contend with churchgoers at the Ferndale Road church blocking the street on Sundays. During the Olympics and Paralympic games CPZ, parking was vastly improved and the street felt calmer. The annual fee per household is not extortionate but I do think that each household should be allowed one ‘free’ car to be registered and be charged only for additional vehicles (as is the system used in Newham). The visitors permits should also be half-daily rather than hourly which seems to be cumbersome means of charging.

  8. Peter Says:

    I just don’t like the idea of having a CPZ on Malvern road

    Parking has never been that bad to begin with. I have no urge to spend unnecessary money on something that in this point it time is free and doesn’t solve anything


    • GC. Says:

      Hmmmm – re Davies Lane – Let’s not forget that parking pre CPZ was a NIGHTMARE. The road was FULL of cars from the other streets that did have CPZ and finding a space anywhere near your house was very difficult, I can clearly recall parking in the next street on some occasions – If a stack of new flats are built on the Lincolns site parking is going to likely become even worse WITH CPZ – without it – well, forget about ever being able to park anywhere near your home again – For the sake of the approx £30 a year it’s absolutely essential that CPZ stays in the area…If it were to go then we’d see the streets full to the brim with commuter cars turning our roads into a free-for-all parking lot. More people have cars than ever before and that statistic is growing – FACT.

      • flashsays Says:

        While I agree -pre CPZ it was a nightmare to park in Davies Lane – any flats on the Lincolns site would count as being on the High Road not Davies Lane, so they wouldn’t be eligible to buy a permit.

  9. kdot (Montague road) Says:

    Personally I think the proposal for the CPZ won’t solve the parking problems in my street. The FARA streets are mostly empty during the times the parking restrictions will be in place, from 10am to 4pm. Yes, there are a few people who park their car there during the day after bringing their children to Davies lane school, but those cars are gone again before the evening rush. Why not allow people to park in our streets when we don’t need the spaces ourselves? This will be good for local businesses as well as for those who receive visitors and tradesmen during the day. The parking problems only start around 5 or 6pm, when people start to come home from work, and sometimes during the weekend when people using the playing fields park in the FARA area. But those are exactly the times when the CPZ is not going to be in effect.

    About the risk that the next street will get a CPZ, yes, that’s probably the only reason to support it because that would be a bad situation. However, if I understand it correctly the consultation is not per street but for the whole area so there won’t be a free parking street in the middle of a CPZ area.

    I’ll vote no to an extra tax which won’t making parking any easier at the times it really matters. If the council wants to do something about parking and encouraging people to not use the car, let’s fix the cycling infrastructure (see for example http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2012/10/off-road-car-parking-nl-vs-uk.html) so we can safely use a bike for short journeys.

  10. flashsays Says:

    Just to add – please do have your say, whatever your view. I seem to recall they count only the results they get so if 3 people reply, 2 of whom are in favour, then that’s a majority in favour even if everyone else would have said no! And the same the other way, of course. So do bother to reply.

    Personally as a Davies Lane resident I don’t find it that bad – parking is much easier than it was and it’s not too bad to get the visitor permits. What happens is a few of us get together and buy a book of permits, then we share them between us and pay for those we use. So we don’t each have to buy an expensive book of permits. There are loads in them and they are undated so this sharing arrangement works well for me. Maybe a CPZ would be a way to get to know your neighbours! Either way it is nothing like the faff needed to get a visitor approved during the Olympics.

    Another thought – what if every road BUT yours says yes to a CPZ – people will then try to park in your street, and you won’t be able to buy a permit to park in theirs. Before Davies Lane had a CPZ I had problems with a car parked outside my house (half in the disabled bay, stopping me from getting my wheelchair out of the boot of my car). After a week I went to the police. Turned out it was someone from a nearby road who didn’t want to pay for a CPZ permit… Anyway, I’m not especially pro-CPZ or anything, but it works for me and I thought I’d give my thoughts. Looking forward to hearing from people in other streets, whether they are for or against.

    Whatever your view – Have your say!

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